Winchester model 12 shotgun gun collections online. Model 12 winchester stock, stocks and forearms high plains. If it has a winchester barrel it was made that way and us inspected. Winchester model 12 pumpaction shotgun in use with iranian airborne troops. Built in 1951,this gun has a 30 barrel choked full. Correct look for an early model 12 trench gun posted in u. In 1964, model 12 production was ramped down in favor of the new model 1200 pump gun and model 12 prices were allowed to soar. This ad features the pictured wwii us issued winchester model 12 trench gun. I take the kindle to gun shows with me and have info at my finger tips if i run across a trench gun and want to verify its authenticity. Model 12 trenchgun winchester shotguns forumwinchester. When commercial production resumed in 1919, the model 1912 was renamed the model 12. Winchesters bad boy smoothbore model 97 riot gun gun.
I inherited it from my dad who used it in viet nam. When you say winchester shotguns, most people think of the model 97 trench gun, the model 1200, or the elegant double barrel model 21. Upon showing the book to my fatherinlaw and brotherinlaw both avid hunters. Specs highquality, detailed reproduction buttplates look and feel like the originals and make restoring an old rifle or shotgun easy work. The winchester model 1897, also known as the model 97, m97, or trench gun, is a pumpaction shotgun with an external hammer and tube magazine manufactured by the winchester repeating arms company. Us winchester trench and riot guns and other us combat. The pump action seems crankier than a model 12 or an ithaca 37. The model 12 era really ended in 1950 when remington trotted out the model 870 pump gun. It retains 85% of the original blue with most of the wear a.
Learn the facts and history behind trench and riot guns of the early 20th century, get a partbypart analysis of the winchester model 12 and 97 and learn how to spot an authentic trench gun. The trench gun of ww1 devastating firepower at close. Please visit the website and check out what the great folks who support us have to offer. Up for sale is a really nice winchester model 12 16ga. These stocks are sold finished as well as unfinished, checkered or uncheckered. Value winchester ww1 trench gun, with bayonet, serial. Some rounds through the winchester model 12 trench gun. The winchester model 1912 pumpaction shotgun saw use. Designed pre wwi and brought into service when the us realised just how brutal trench warefare was and how important the need for clo. Trench guns were named after the trench warfare emerging during the early years of world war 1, bogging down a once fluid, mobile fronts into warzones of bloody attrition and stalemate. Such as the stevens model 77e with the m5 bayonet, or the united states marine corps model 870 mark 1 shotgun with the m7 bayonet. Dave riffle has the greatest hammerless repeating shotgun ever built. The receiver has the late finish with prominent milling marks found on parkerized model 12 trench guns. Winchester firearms owners manuals winchester repeating arms.
It became clear to the united states just how brutal trench warfare was, and the winchester model 1897 trench grade was their response. But what if we told you there was a gun marketed for almost a. As i mentioned, im new to trench guns just got canfields book a couple f days ago and and only became interested when researching a sevens 53030 riot gun that i came into by chance not a winchester, but a browning design. With those two marking you have in my opinion a genuine trench gun. I did it once, but it was years ago and i cant recall how it shot. Because the winchester model 1897 and 1912 were the most commonly used combat shotguns up to the vietnam war period, the book concentrates heavily on. Sep 02, 2014 author leroy thompson investigated the history of the winchester model 12 trench gun for the 2015 issue of military surplus. Its labeled as a winchester model 1897 and has the short barrel. The model 12 was designed by winchester engineer t. I believe it is 1943 production and i dont think it saw any use.
Winchester made model 12 short barrel trench guns, short barrel riot guns and long barrel shot guns used for training bomber crews in gunnery practice. Seek knowledgeable instruction before attempting to use the gun if you are unsure. Johnson, utilizing a strong frame and a hidden hammer. Shooting and discussing the classic model 12 pump shotgun. Winchester gun parts model 12 shotgun parts nu line guns inc bought all of the parts from winchester for the model 12. The winchester model 1912 also commonly known as the model 12, or m12 is an internalhammer pumpaction shotgun with an external tube magazine. When encountered today, most trench guns are quite worn, showing hard battlefield use, while the riot guns used by various police departments are usually in better shape, having spent much of their time in station gun racks and patrol cars. After selecting the appropriate model, you will be guided through the many possible variations, then condition rating, to the final value range. About model 1912 winchester shotgun the model 1912 or as it is more commonly known model 12 was winchester s first slideaction hammerless shotgun. I was able to source the stock and forearm for this project but unfortunately cant find the sling swivelattachment for the stock. During the second world war, 80,000 winchester rifles were purchased and. Ordnance winchester model 12 butt plates brownells. Approximately 20,000 winchester model 12 trench guns were supplied to. Winchester model 1897 pump action shotgun aka the trench gun with bayonet lug for the 16 sword bayonet.
I am currently working on a retro shotgun project which involves a model 1200 from 1965. Saw a win model 12 trench riot gun for sale on gunbroker, 1942 serial 953244, military finish, with ordinance stamps. Finished in high polished commercial blue, except for some trench guns only which were the only wwii shotguns to have factory parkerized finishes. Rare winchester model 12 us trench gun 12 gauge feb 16. Winchester model 1897 military trench gun butt stock gunsmiths estate. Beyond the base shooting model and the militarized trench gun models, winchester also delivered riot gun versions with shorter barrels sans bayonet mounting and heat. The winchester model 12 was also used in 1950 during the korean war and. If you cannot find the manual you need please use our online order system or contact us directly at any time by phone during office hours. Winchester model 12 trench gun for sale gunsamerica. Find winchester model 12 parts and schematics today with numrich gun parts. There are few manufacturers that have a longstoried history in the defense industry as winchester. I inherited what appears to be a winchester model 1897, sn 693xxx, which is in the range for a military trench gun according to the 39th blue book page 2101. The chamber was made longer for the 234 inch shells in 1927, then later for 3 inch shells.
An atypical hero emerged, the militarized winchester model 97 riot gun, a 20barrel, 12 ga. American soldiers, police, and hunters all loved and used the trench gun which is the reason it remained in production for 59 years. There are no acceptance marks on the stock except for a p on the underside of the pistol grip. The trench gun, the winchester model 1897, was an immensely popular shotgun. From 1897 until 1957, over one million of these shotguns were produced. Jan 05, 2017 some rounds through the winchester model 12 trench gun. The model 12 served trench gun duties with military units for decades. This richly illustrated book chronologically describes the course of operation overlord through 357 specific events. Beyond the base shooting model and the militarized trench gun models, winchester also delivered riot gun versions with shorter barrels sans bayonet mounting and heat shield for security duty at american bases and ports. Popularly named the perfect repeater at its introduction, it largely set the standard for pump action shotguns over its 51year highrate production life.
Author leroy thompson investigated the history of the winchester model 12 trench gun for the 2015 issue of military surplus. Howdy, id like some information and opinions on this model 12 trench gun. This gun is pictured on page 315 of the winchester engraving book by larry. View this discussion about winchester model 12 shotgun and heat shield item no. Dec 03, 2015 of course, the standard model 97, including riot guns, remained in production for slightly more than a decade after that. Clean winchester model 12 18 ring shotgun corn cob forend walnut forearm. Undoubtedly, few things are more formidable or reliable in battle than a 12 gauge pump action shotgun.
The internal parts of the model 12 action were all handfitted and machined to precise specifications. Winchester shotguns model 97 for sale guns international. World war 1 ended with the german surrender in november of 1918, the original model 12 trench guns being produced into the early 1920s. Model 12 trench guns were still in limited use during the 19901991 gulf war. The winchester model 12 trench gun and the model 97 trench gun were the primary u. In appraising your gun, you must initially determine your model configuration. Winchester model 12 shotgun appraisal find value price date. Browning, in that it used a sliding forearm or pump action to cycle. The famous winchester model 1912 pump shotgun was designed by winchester s thomas c. According to the canfield book on us shotguns this. Get the 74th edition of the worlds greatest gun book.
Winchester firearms owners manuals if you have misplaced the owners manual originally provided with your firearm or safe, you can in many cases can find a digital copy here. Buy it now when the united states entered world war i, there was a need for more service weapons to be issued to the troops. Winchester gun parts model 12 shotgun parts nuline guns. The model 1912 shortened to model 12 in 1919 was the next step from the winchester model 1897 hammerfired shotgun, which in turn had evolved from the earlier winchester model 1893 shotgun. Buy winchester model 12 parts factory replacement gun parts, accessories and gunsmithing service on most manufacturers including browning, winchester, fn america, beretta, benelli franchi, stoeger, remington, bushmaster, marlin, sig sauer, hk and many more.
The winchester model 12 shotgun set the mold and then broke it for what a. You must read this manual carefully and thoroughly in its entirety and fully understand all aspects before you can safely use your shotgun. From 1897 until 1957, over one million of these shotguns were. What is interesting is that this gun has a commercial finish.
Can someone explain or point me to a reference on how to tell if my model 97 is a riot or trench gun. In order to supplement the winchester model 1897 trench gun, remington also produced a trench gun variant of its model 10 pumpaction shotgun. This was a new age of stamped parts and lower production costs. This is an early model 12 that was manufactured with a 2 916. Still others were purchased by the us military for training aerial gunners in the fine art of downing enemy aircraft in. Proper ghd cartouche and crossed cannons on left side of stock. How much of the bbl is supposed to show beyond the bayonet mount. The winchester model 1912 is an internalhammer pumpaction shotgun with an external tube magazine. The military technical manual is tm 92117 titled field and depot. Between 1897 and 1956 more than a million were produced by winchester repeating arms. They frankly thought that such a book did not exist and were mesmorized at madis work.
It was us inspected thats why there is a proof p stamp on its barrel and the serial number matches the receiver. When were the first model 12s purchased by the us military. The winchester model 1897, also known as the model 97, m97, or trench gun, is a. Built using original factory patterns, so you know the screw holes, checkering, company brand logos and borders are a perfect match.
The winchester model 1912 is an internalhammer, pumpaction, shotgun with an external tube magazine. The model 12,19121964 available for purchase online at. I just joined this forum and have several model 12 s. Known as the perfect repeater when introduced in 1912, the winchester model 12 was. Though the winchester model 1897 shotgun is perhaps bestknown for its use during world war i as the trench gun, this reliable, pumpaction shotgun saw use in military, lawenforcement and. Johnson, and was based in part on the m189397 design by john m. Winchester us model 12 trench gun for sale on gunsamerica. The winchester model 1897 fought alongside another drafted winchester product the model 1912 m12 which served the same form and function as the model 1897.
In examining the trench gun s history, thompson attempted to show why the 12 gauge shotgun that served u. I am rebuilding an already messed with civilian model 12 into a trench gun and ive got a few questions for forum members. Model 12 trench guns were produced on special order to the military in 1919. They can supply parts or repair your gun back to factory specs. Winchester model 12 military shotguns takedown model with improved hammerless receiver. Winchester model 1897 page 2 the firearms forum the.
Riot gun versionsagain on special ordercame about in 1918 and were produced for the subsequent 45 years. One of the most intimidating looking firearms ever made. My father only ever owned one shotgun a model 97 that he shot for over 70 years. M1917 bayonets were still in used by the us army as late as the early 2000s for use with the m1200 shotgun. This page details the development and operational history of the winchester model 1912 model 12 pumpaction slide shotgun including technical specifications and pictures. This model was widely used during world war i and is better known as the model 12 trench gun. The model 1897 was an evolution of the winchester model 1893 designed by john browning.
Theres a e above the sn and what appears to be winchester stamps on the barrel and action. Winchester model 1912 model 12 pumpaction slide shotgun. The unfinished stocks are inletted far beyond what you would get with the more common 90% inletted stock. Winchester model 12, 28 gauge, pigeon winchester model 12, 28 gauge skeet home winchester fine doubles over and unders big game rifles other guns model 12 book how to order about us contact winchester stocks and forearms model 42 parts sitemap. Winchester model 1897 trench gun looking for a front sling swivel for a 1897 trench gun. Model 12 shotguns became known as trench guns and were. Page 1 of 2 winchester model 1897 military trench gun posted in u. It dates to 1942 and would have originally been blue. In examining the trench guns history, thompson attempted to show why the 12gauge shotgun that served u. Barrel and receiv for sale by ken4715 on gunsamerica 985503374. The model 12 trench gun was used extensively in combat by the marine corps in wwii and continued in service during the korean and vietnam conflicts. Winchester model 12, 20 gauge, dave riffle gun sales.
There are11 distinct model configurationsof model 12 winchester shotgun, and they can vary a great deal in value. Winchester model 12 trench gun 12 ga 2 34 chamber serial number 992xx2 which is the correct range for blue guns. The springfield armory had to design a special bayonet mounting for winchester shotguns as the bayonets in use relied on a ring fitted over a. In the trench gun configuration, the model 12 has a perforated steel heat shield and the m1917 bayonet adapter, very similar to the winchester model 97 trench gun as a riot gun, the barrel was plain with no heat shield and no bayonet adapter winchester model 12 trench gun tm 92117, july 1957. Sgt rock that is a great example of a winchester m1200 trench gun. Thus, while the 870 could not match the internal quality of the old model 12, from the outside it looked like a higher quality gun than the new winchester model 1200. The winchester model 1897 trench gun with a fixed bayonet was a fearsome and distinctly american weapon used by doughboys in the trenches of france. The trench shotgun was widely used with devastating results during ww1 and has since become a soughtafter collectors item. The model 1897 was superseded by the winchester model 1912. To digress a bit, the term trench gun was never an official designation but was widely used to denote a shortbarrel riot gun fitted with a handguard, bayonet adapter and sling swivels.
Of course, the standard model 97, including riot guns, remained in production for slightly more than a decade after that. The design of the winchester trench gun the winchester company of new haven, connecticut, first breathed life into their 1897 model shotgun through a modernization of its 1893 series pump gun. The model 12 was offered with barrel lengths of 20, 26, 28, and 30 inches with cylinder bore, improved, modified, full, skeet, and trap chokes. Winchester s model 1897 has proven over time to be a reliable firearm for protection of americas finest. Apr 17, 2019 the model 12 era really ended in 1950 when remington trotted out the model 870 pump gun. It feels too bulky to me, but the winchoke makes it a usable gun. Introduced in 20 gauge in 1912, 16 and 12 gauge guns followed in 1914. Mint winchester model 1897 97 12 gauge takedown frame.
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